It's that time of the year when prospect lists abound, and to kick off the 2010 coverage of the Cleveland Indians prospects we have a new feature on the site to unveil today.
Submissions from 15 die-hard prospect fans on the site message boards were compiled where they each person provided their Top 30 Indians prospect listing and all results were averaged to the final ranking you see below. Thanks to devoted site reader Mike B. - AKA the MadThinker on the boards - for putting this listing together.
As a quick note, the site Top 50 Prospect countdown will begin very soon.
Rank
| AVG
|
| Player/Position
|
1
| 1.000
|
| Carlos Santana: Catcher
|
2
| 2.467
|
| Lonnie Chisenhall: Third baseman
|
3
| 3.600
|
| Hector Rondon: Right-handed pitcher
|
4
| 5.400
|
| Nick Hagadone: Left-handed pitcher
|
5
| 7.533
|
| Jason Knapp: Right-handed pitcher
|
6
| 7.533
|
| Alex White: Right-handed pitcher
|
7
| 9.533
|
| Carlos Carrasco: Right-handed pitcher
|
8
| 10.400
|
| Michael Brantley: Outfielder
|
9
| 10.667
|
| Tony Sipp: Left-handed pitcher
|
10
| 10.667
|
| Nick Weglarz: Outfielder
|
11
| 11.933
|
| Jeanmar Gomez: Right-handed pitcher
|
12
| 12.267
|
| Kelvin de la Cruz: Left-handed pitcher
|
13
| 12.867
|
| T.J. House: Left-handed pitcher
|
14
| 13.733
|
| Alexander Perez: Right-handed pitcher
|
15
| 16.133
|
| Jordan Brown: First baseman/Outfielder
|
16
| 16.400
|
| Abner Abreu: Outfielder
|
17
| 18.467
|
| Jess Todd: Right-handed pitcher
|
18
| 19.467
|
| Beau Mills: First baseman
|
19
| 19.733
|
| Jason Donald: Infielder
|
20
| 20.067
|
| Lou Marson: Catcher
|
21
| 20.733
|
| Scott Barnes: Left-handed pitcher
|
22
| 22.133
|
| Eric Berger: Left-handed pitcher
|
23
| 22.867
|
| Jason Kipnis: Second baseman
|
24
| 23.533
|
| Zach Putnam: Right-handed pitcher
|
25
| 23.667
|
| Josh Judy: Right-handed pitcher
|
26
| 25.333
|
| Wes Hodges: Third baseman
|
27
| 25.357
|
| Matt McBride: Catcher/Outfielder
|
28
| 26.467
|
| Carlos Rivero: Shortstop
|
29
| 27.800
|
| Clayton Cook: Right-handed pitcher
|
30
| 27.933
|
| Connor Graham: Right-handed pitcher
|
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3 comments:
Of those 30 players, an astonishing 15 were acquired by the organization within the past 18 months. That includes prospect #2 along with #'s 4-8.
08 Draftees = Chisenhall, House, Putnam and Cook
09 Draftees = White and Kipnis
Trades = Hagadone, Knapp, Carrasco, Brantley, Todd, Donald, Marson, Barnes and Graham
Credit is definitely due to the recent managers of talent evaluation for stock piling up the minor league system like that.
I hate to be 'that guy' that points out the obvious but...
It's an even more astonishing 16 players acquired in the last year and a half as it also includes #1 Santana- acquired July '08 in the Blake trade.
Also, in thinking about my own idea of a Top 30, I wasn't sure if guys like Brantley, Marson, Carrasco, and Sipp didn't get too much ML time this year. Do they still qualify as rookies (the criteria that BA uses to determine if a guy is still a prospect)?
Good points Jacob, and certainly something I have planned to address in my preface to my Top 50 this year. A large percentage of the players in the Top 50 and even the Top 25 this year will be from the recent trades since the Sabathia July trade and forward. The Indians have always done a good job of identifying prospects from others teams while struggling in the draft, so this is no surprise. Of course, when you trade the likes of Lee, Sabathia, Martinez, etc in about a year's time you should expect a huge influx of upper level talent into the organization, which is the case here. This kind of gives me an idea for an "alternate" Top 25 list excluding the recent trades and seeing what the listing would be like had we kept Sabathia, Lee, Martinez and others the past 18 months.
The Indians scouting department always gets knocked for the poor drafts, but you have to give them credit for the solid showing in the international market every year and also just who do you think is evaluating and making the recommendations to Shapiro on what prospects to select in all these trades? It ain't Shapiro, it's the scouting department. So while they have struggled in the draft up until 2006-2007, they have done a very good job in all other areas from a "prospect" perspective. (Their major league scouting has been questionable as well, though some the fault of being forced to operate in a market where they have to bargain bin shop on the Dellucci's of the world).
Oh, and yes, guys like Sipp, Brantley, Marson, etc are all still rookies since they have under 130 at bats or 50 IP in the bigs. Service time is not considered. Scott Lewis is also still a rookie and considered for the list.
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