Here is an updated listing through 2011 of my Indians prospect rankings since 2007. While I have ranked as many as 100 players in a season, for simplicity sake only the Top 30 for each year are included in this listing. To see the scouting report for a player during each year, simply roll your mouse pointer over the name of the player and click on it.
Also, below my rankings I also have included the Top 10 since 2007 from reputed publications and sources such as Baseball America, Kevin Goldstein, Keith Law, and John Sickels. (This listing is located in the "Rankings" tab below the site header above for quick reference.)
2011
Baseball America | Kevin Goldstein | Keith Law | John Sickels | |
1 | Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B | Jason Kipnis, 2B | Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B | Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B |
2 | Alex White, RHP | Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B | Jason Kipnis, 2B | Alex White, RHP |
3 | Jason Kipnis, 2B | Drew Pomeranz, LHP | Drew Pomeranz, LHP | Jason Kipnis, 2B |
4 | Drew Pomeranz, LHP | Alex White, RHP | Alex White, RHP | Drew Pomeranz, LHP |
5 | Nick Weglarz, OF | LeVon Washington, OF | Jason Knapp, RHP | Nick Weglarz, OF |
6 | Jason Knapp, RHP | Nick Weglarz, OF | Nick Weglarz, OF | Jason Knapp, RHP |
7 | LeVon Washington, OF | Joe Gardner, RHP | Bryce Stowell, RHP | Joe Gardner, RHP |
8 | Tony Wolters, SS | Jason Knapp, RHP | Joe Gardner, RHP | LeVon Washington, OF |
9 | Joe Gardner, RHP | Tony Wolters, SS | Cord Phelps, 2B | Nick Hagadone, LHP |
10 | Nick Hagadone, LHP | Cord Phelps, 2B | LeVon Washington, OF | Tony Wolters, SS |
2010
Baseball America | Kevin Goldstein | Keith Law | John Sickels | |
1 | Carlos Santana, C | Carlos Santana, C | Carlos Santana, C | Carlos Santana, C |
2 | Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B | Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B | Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B | Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B |
3 | Nick Hagadone, LHP | Alex White, RHP | Hector Rondon, RHP | Nick Hagadone, LHP |
4 | Jason Knapp, RHP | Jason Knapp, RHP | Michael Brantley, OF | Alex White, RHP |
5 | Michael Brantley, OF | Nick Hagadone, LHP | Nick Hagadone, LHP | Hector Rondon, RHP |
6 | Nick Weglarz, OF/1B | Hector Rondon, RHP | Abner Abreu, OF | Michael Brantley, OF |
7 | Hector Rondon, RHP | Lou Marson, C | Alex White, RHP | Carlos Carrasco, RHP |
8 | Carlos Carrasco, RHP | Jason Kipnis, 2B | Nick Weglarz, OF/1B | Nick Weglarz, OF/1B |
9 | Alex White, RHP | Carlos Carrasco, RHP | Jason Kipnis, 2B | Jason Knapp, RHP |
10 | Jason Kipnis, 2B | Michael Brantley, OF | T.J. House, LHP | T.J. House, LHP |
2009
Baseball America | Kevin Goldstein | Keith Law | John Sickels | |
1 | Carlos Santana, C | Matt LaPorta, OF/1B | Carlos Santana, C | Carlos Santana, C |
2 | Matt LaPorta, OF/1B | Carlos Santana, C | Matt LaPorta, OF/1B | Matt LaPorta, OF |
3 | Nick Weglarz, OF/1B | Nick Weglarz, OF/1B | Adam Miller, RHP | Adam Miller, RHP |
4 | Adam Miller, RHP | Adam Miller, RHP | Nick Weglarz, OF/1B | Beau Mills, 1B |
5 | Beau Mills, 1B | Beau Mills, 1B | David Huff, LHP | Hector Rondon RHP |
6 | Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B | Hector Rondon, RHP | Hector Rondon, RHP | Lonnie Chisenhall 3B |
7 | Kelvin de la Cruz, LHP | David Huff, LHP | Kelvin de la Cruz, LHP | Nick Weglarz, OF |
8 | David Huff, LHP | Trevor Crowe, OF | Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B | David Huff, LHP |
9 | Michael Brantley, OF | Carlos Rivero, SS | Carlos Rivero, SS | Carlos Rivero, SS |
10 | Carlos Rivero, SS | Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B | Abner Abreu, 3B | Scott Lewis, LHP |
2008
Baseball America | Kevin Goldstein | Keith Law | John Sickels | |
1 | Adam Miller, RHP | Adam Miller, RHP | Adam Miller, RHP | Adam Miller, RHP |
2 | Chuck Lofgren, LHP | Wes Hodges, 3B | Nick Weglarz, OF | Chuck Lofgren, LHP |
3 | Beau Mills, 1B | Beau Mills, 1B | Chuck Lofgren, LHP | Beau Mills, 1B |
4 | Wes Hodges, 3B | Chuck Lofgren, LHP | Beau Mills, 1B | Josh Rodriguez, SS |
5 | Aaron Laffey, LHP | Nick Weglarz, OF | Wes Hodges, 3B | Wes Hodges, 3B |
6 | Nick Weglarz, OF | Aaron Laffey, LHP | N/A | Brad Snyder, OF |
7 | Jordan Brown, 1B | Jensen Lewis, RHP | N/A | Jensen Lewis, RHP |
8 | David Huff, LHP | Josh Rodriguez, SS | N/A | Jared Goedert, 3B |
9 | Ben Francisco, OF | Jordan Brown, 1B | N/A | Trevor Crowe, OF |
10 | Jensen Lewis, RHP | Trevor Crowe, OF | N/A | John Drennen, OF |
2007
Baseball America | Kevin Goldstein | Keith Law | John Sickels | |
1 | Adam Miller, RHP | Adam Miller, RHP | N/A | Adam Miller, RHP |
2 | Chuck Lofgren, LHP | Chuck Lofgren, LHP | N/A | Chuck Lofgren, LHP |
3 | Trevor Crowe, OF | Trevor Crowe, OF | N/A | Brian Barton, OF |
4 | Tony Sipp, LHP | John Drennen, OF | N/A | John Drennen, OF |
5 | Brian Barton, OF | Brian Barton, OF | N/A | Brad Snyder, OF |
6 | John Drennen, OF | Tony Sipp, LHP | N/A | Wes Hodges, 3B |
7 | Scott Lewis, LHP | Wes Hodges, 3B | N/A | Trevor Crowe, OF |
8 | Brad Snyder, OF | Brad Snyder, OF | N/A | Tony Sipp, LHP |
9 | Wes Hodges, 3B | Rafael Perez, LHP | N/A | David Huff, LHP |
10 | David Huff, LHP | Scott Lewis, LHP | N/A | Edward Mujica, RHP |
18 comments:
Talk about an astronomical talent jump in two years, and that's without even seeing the names of Carrasco, Knapp, Hagadone, Barnes, Graham, Price, Marson, & Donald.
That's not even naming the breakouts like Cook, Espino, Nuno, & Popham, and other potentials like Brito.
Let's just hope we can stay with a boatload of talent, even when these guys are playing in Cleveland.
You ain't kidding. It was tough to make a legit Top 10 two years ago in 2007.....and this year I can't figure out who to not put in the Top 10. Our 20th ranked guy this year may be as good as the #2 guy in 2007. It's a credit to the recent drafts and obviously all the talent acquired in the trades over the last 17 months. That said, they NEED this talent to be real and do something at the big league level and not die out at AAA or when they get to the bigs.
Adam Miller, does he even crack a top 30 list anymore?
-Clay
Regarding Miller, hell yes. He should even still get consideration for Top 10....though think he'll fall into the teens on many lists purely because of his questionable status. A lot more will be known on his status in the next six weeks....but if he looks to be on his way back there are still few if any better pitchers in the organization.
I see. I only ask because at some point, given the injury history and his age (incredibly "old" 25) doesn't he begin to lose his lofty prospect status?
In a perfect world, since he's had something close to a year off now his elbow is nice and rested and his hand is reconstructed out of steel. Then he becomes that top flight starter like the legend was once told.
Factoring injuries/health is always tough when doing these rankings. Do you take injury into account and what their status is for the year, or do you assume the player who is rehabbing comes back and will perform better at some point in the year or a year down the road?
Miller is a great talent, but has a questionable future because of the finger injury. More will be known about him by the end of December (hopefully) so we will see.....but I think his talent still has to be considered and until said otherwise you have to assume he comes back at some point this year. And for that, you gotta put him in the Top 20 and maybe even the Top 10.
Will you be updating this with the 2010 list? I like to refer back to players a few times during the season and the only way I currently see how is to click through the post archive. Great work by the way, really appreciate an alternative to BA.
Yeah, I had this on the list to update this weekend and early next week before the season starts.
we need to add BO GREENWELL and JASON SMIT to the top 30s list. these two guys can flat out play. they r the two best pure hitters in the organization. both are going to find their way to the big leagues
Hopefully, a few of the young arms will mature a little faster. Alex White and Nick Hagadone are both a little long in the tooth to put on a 4 year track to Cleveland.
Too bad about Lewis. Let's hope its simply precautionary.
Adam Miller? No updates...anything, any word, how about an interview?
Anthony Reyes? How is he progressing? Odds of him being a factor in 2011? Is he tracking a 2010 comeback?
Ambriz? Who goes down?
Jordan Brown? What value does he have with the glut of left handed bats? Wouldn't he have to take a lefties spot on the roster? Other than giving Hafner a rest as DH, where could Brown fit in?
In regard to Adam Miller, I did an update on him in spring training about a month ago (nothing has changed since). Here is the piece: http://www.indiansprospectinsider.com/2010/03/goodyear-notebook-314.html
Reyes is not expected to pitch this year, and if at all comes back in late August or September. I don't see him remaining in the org after this season. I have checked into his current status so will update on the site (Twitter) what I find out if anything.
Ambriz will be here sometime in the next week unless we comeplete a trade so we can officially option him to Columbus. With Wood coming back, Wright is first to go and then one of Smith, Laffey, Lewis, or Sipp are optioned out for Ambriz.
Brown could fit in at left field if LaPorta is DLed. The Indians are strongly considering DLing LaPorta, so Brown may be an option to fill his spot. Him hitting left-handed doesn't really matter....I mean yeah you want a balanced lineup, but the whole lefty thing I think is overblown. You actually want a left-handed heavy lineup since 70-75% of the pitchers are right-handed anyway.
still think you should add Bo Greenwell to this list. The kid is absolutly tearing it up this year.
This is a fixed listing so it won't change for this year....but if Greenwell keeps it up this year I see no reason he won't make the Top 30 next year. He was in the 40s this year.
Aren't you going to put up the 2011 list on here?
Ah, thanks for the reminder. Yes, I was going to update this a month ago but my health issues pushed it aside and I forgot. Will do right now.
Wow, look at the inflation of talented prospects over the last few years. Not to mention that we turned Eduardo Perez into Drubal and Derosa into Chris Perez. That's 2 veterens for 2 all stars. We got McCallistar for Kearns last year and he is one of our top pitching prospects, and he's not even in the top 10. Barnes, Burns , Espino, Popham, and even Adam Miller are worthy of top 10 status in many other organizations.
Jared Head is making a case for himself, but Goedhart is not making any noise this year. I'm still frustrated at the lack of support Tomlin is getting in the big leagues. The guy is 11-4 and has had a consistent WHIP near the 1.00 mark since last season and throughout his minor league career. That is why players like Popham and Brach could have could major league careers because of their low WHIPs.
Still, a very deep farm in pitching. We need a few more power bats though. I know the steroid-era is over, but we need a couple of guys who can hit 30-35 homers per season. Ultimately, pitching will win us the World Series, but we need some power bats who can hit as well.
Yeah, Tribe has made some good lower level vet-prospect trades that's for sure. I agree that Barnes would be a Top 10 guy in a lot of systems, and would be after this season, but no way for Espino, Popham, Burns and Miller. All four of those guys will be lucky to crack the Top 30 after this season, though think they all have a good shot (but near back end of 30). I think Head's fate has been made with how good he is performing yet the reluctance of the Indians to promote him. A very good system, and one that has really performed well this season and should no doubt be a Top 10 system in baseball going into next year.
I know they wouldn't make our top 10, but there are plenty of other farm systems that would love that depth in pitching; our bullpen this year is a testament to that. Our AAA and AA teams would have much better records if the had an extra power bat and/or contact bat in their lineups. I know we're in first place in AAA, but just imagine how dominant we would be. Aguilar is surprising a lot of people, I think he is like 2nd in home runs in his league and the top guy is batting like .245 while he is around the .290 range. but again this may be a fluke year since this is like the first time he has hit a bunch of homers in one season. Maybe he practiced with Asdrubal? Lol.
Speaking of pitching, I completely forgot about Rondon and De La Cruz. Two former top 10 guys who are in your top 20 now. I hope they can rebound from their hiccups. Rondon has been a guy who has always gotten better as he moved up the system until last year. Hopefully this little bump will help him. De La Cruz is definitely doing better than his numbers suggest. He just needs to control his pitches and his talent will show through his numbers.
All in all, we have enough depth to make a significant move at the deadline. I just hope the front office knows who the untouchables are (Pomeranz, White & Knapp are too good to let go).
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